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Revision as of 23:33, 7 February 2015


Rod Journal Dimensions

Crankshaft Rod Journals Metric Dimensions SAE (Inch) Dimensions
Rod Journal Dimensions 51.9811mm 2.04650 inch
Rod Journal Variance 51.9786 - 51.9887 mm 2.04640 - 2.04680 inch
Rod Journal Tolerance -0.0025, +0.0076 mm -0.00010, +0.00030 inch

Bearings Specification, Dimensions, Clearance

OEM 088/089 Bearings

Production and Composition

BMW "088/089" bearings were the factory production bearings between 2007 to mid-2010. When the EU mandated the removal from lead in automotive bearings, BMW discontinued these bearings.
The composition is a standard babbit lead/copper bearing. They are soft faced, and easy on the crankshaft.
Manufacturer: Clevite. Clevite logo is seen on the back of the bearings.

Dimensions

Bearing Dimensions (088/089 Bearings) Metric Dimensions SAE (Inch) Dimensions
Nominal Bearing Thickness (Top, Blue) 2.0028 mm 0.07885 inch
Nominal Bearing Thickness (Bottom, Red) 1.9977 mm 0.07865 inch
Bearing Thickness Variance (Top, Blue) 2.0015 - 2.0041 mm 0.07880 - 0.07890 inch
Bearing Thickness Variance (Bottom, Red) 1.9964 - 2.0015 mm 0.07860 - 0.07880 inch
Bearing Tolerance (Top, Blue) -0.0013 - 0.0013 mm -0.00005 - +0.00005 inch
Bearing Tolerance (Bottom, Red) -0.0013 - 0.0038 mm -0.00005 - +0.00015 inch


Bearing Clearance Specifications

Con Rod Clearance (088/089 Bearings) [1] Metric Dimensions SAE (Inch) Dimensions
Rod + Bearing Dimensions 52.0179 mm 2.04795 inch
Rod + Bearing Variance [1] 52.0154 - 52.0192 mm 2.04785 - 2.04800 inch
Nominal Rod Bearing Clearance 0.0368 mm 0.00145 inch
Bearing Clearance Variance [1] 0.0343 - 0.0381 mm 0.00135 - 0.00150 inch
Bearing Clearance Tolerance -0.0025 - +0.0013 mm -0.00010 - +0.00005 inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal inch   0.00071 inch/inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal Inch Variance [1] 0.00066 - 0.00073 inch/inch
Bearing Eccentricity 0.0216 mm 0.00085 inch
Bearing Eccentricity Variance 0.0178 - 0.0229 mm 0.00070 - 0.00090 inch
Bearing Eccentricity Tolerance -0.0038 - +0.0013 mm -0.00015 - +0.00005 inch


OEM 702/703 Bearings

Production and Composition

EU mandates against lead/copper bearings began in 2011. However, S65 engines have been seen with mid-2010 production dates having these newer 702/703 bearings. These bearings remained in production until the end of S65 production in 2013.
The new 702/703 bearings are made from tin/aluminum composition. BMW increased the clearance slightly over the 088/089 bearings and increased the eccentricity as well. But this improvement in clearance and eccentricity came at a price. The 702/703 bearings are substantially harder than the 088/089 bearings they replaced. As a consequence, then a bearing is spun, it tends to cause more damage to the crankshaft in the process.
Manufacturer: King (believed to be King, but this is unconfirmed).

Dimensions

Bearing Dimensions (702/703 Bearings) Metric Dimensions SAE (Inch) Dimensions
Nominal Bearing Thickness (Top, Blue) 1.9977 mm 0.07865 inch
Nominal Bearing Thickness (Bottom, Red) 1.9939 mm 0.07850 inch
Bearing Thickness Variance (Top, Blue) 1.9977 - 1.9990 mm 0.07865 - 0.07870 inch
Bearing Thickness Variance (Bottom, Red) 1.9939 - 1.9952 mm 0.07850 - 0.07855 inch
Bearing Tolerance (Top, Blue) 0.0000 - 0.0013 mm 0.00000 - +0.00005 inch
Bearing Tolerance (Bottom, Red) 0.0000 - 0.0013 mm 0.00000 - +0.00005 inch


Bearing Clearance Specifications

Con Rod Clearance (702/703 Bearings) Metric Dimensions SAE (Inch) Dimensions
Rod + Bearing Dimensions 52.0243 mm 2.04820 inch
Rod + Bearing Variance 52.0230 - 52.0294 mm 2.04815 - 2.04840 inch
Nominal Rod Bearing Clearance 0.0432 mm 0.00170 inch
Bearing Clearance Variance 0.0419 - 0.0483 mm 0.00165 - 0.00190 inch
Bearing Clearance Tolerance -0.0089 - +0.0076 mm -0.00035 - +0.00030 inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal inch   0.00083 inch/inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal Inch Variance 0.00081 - 0.00093 inch/inch
Bearing Eccentricity 0.0508 mm 0.00200 inch
Bearing Eccentricity Variance 0.0444 - 0.0584 mm 0.00175 - 0.00230 inch
Bearing Eccentricity Tolerance -0.0063 - +0.0076 mm -0.00025 - +0.00030 inch


Calico Coated Bearings

Production and Composition

Calico coated bearings start life as standard 072/703 bearings. These bearings are sold through VAC, ESS, and Harrop. An end-user may also send bearings to Calico for coating. Calico adds their CT-1 coating to the surface of the bearing. The coating adds a slight thickness, thereby decreasing bearing clearance. The thickness to each shell is estimated by Calico between 0.0002 - 0.0004 inch.
Manufacturer: Calico Coatings
Manufacturing Defects: There's two primary manufacturing defects associated with Calico coated bearings.

  1. Calico coating is also placed on the parting lines. The material on the parting lines will affect the "bearing crush" and may wear unevenly or in a different manner than a standard OEM bearing.
  2. BMW bearings are sold in upper (blue) and lower (red) bearing shells. When the Calico coating is applied, this color distinction is lost. The upper (blue) bearings are slightly thicker than the lower (red) bearings. However, Calico habitually mixes these shells up and returns them to the customer mislabeled: uppers are now lowers, and visa-versa.

Dimensions

Will post when available.

Bearing Clearance Specifications

VAC (Calico) Coated Rod Bearings [2] Metric Dimensions SAE (Inch) Dimensions
Rod + Bearing Dimensions 52.0141 mm 2.04780 inch
Rod + Bearing Variance 52.0090 - 52.0141 mm 2.04760 - 2.04780 inch
Nominal Rod Bearing Clearance 0.0330 mm 0.00130 inch
Bearing Clearance Variance 0.0279 - 0.0330 mm 0.00110 - 0.00130 inch
Bearing Clearance Tolerance -0.0127 - +0.0025 mm -0.00050 - +0.00010 inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal inch   0.00063 inch/inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal Inch Variance 0.00054 - 0.00063 inch/inch


WPC Treated Bearings

Production and Composition

WPC treated bearings start life as standard 072/703 bearings. These bearings are sold through Auto Talent and EAS. An end-user may also send bearings to WPC for treatment. Unlike Calico CT-1 coating, the WPC treated bearings slightly remove material to create a low-friction surface. Manufacturer: WPC

Dimensions

Will post when available.

Bearing Clearance Specifications

WPC Treated Rod Bearings [3] Metric Dimensions SAE (Inch) Dimensions
Rod + Bearing Dimensions 52.0281 mm 2.04835 inch
Rod + Bearing Variance 52.0268 - 52.0332 mm 2.04830 - 2.04855 inch
Nominal Rod Bearing Clearance 0.0470 mm 0.00185 inch
Bearing Clearance Variance 0.0457 - 0.0521 mm 0.00180 - 0.00205 inch
Bearing Clearance Tolerance -0.0089 - +0.0076 mm -0.00035 - +0.00030 inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal inch   0.00090 inch/inch
Bearing Clearance per Journal Inch Variance 0.00088 - 0.00100 inch/inch


Rod Bearing Part Numbers, History

BMW Part Number Description Location Color Standard Size Bearings Application Prod. Start Prod. End Superceded By
11 24 7 835 662 Connecting Rod Bearing Bottom Red 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50 Apr-04 Apr-04 11 24 7 836 288
11 24 7 835 663 Connecting Rod Bearing Top Blue 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50 Apr-04 Apr-04 11 24 7 836 289
11 24 7 836 288 Connecting Rod Bearing Bottom Red 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50 Sep-04 Apr-07 11 24 7 838 088
11 24 7 836 289 Connecting Rod Bearing Top Blue 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50 Sep-04 May-07 11 24 7 838 089
11 24 7 838 088 Connecting Rod Bearing Bottom Red 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50, S65B40, S65B44 Feb-06 Oct-11 11 24 7 841 702
11 24 7 838 089 Connecting Rod Bearing Top Blue 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50, S65B40, S65B44 Feb-06 Mar-11 11 24 7 841 703
11 24 7 841 702 Connecting Rod Bearing Bottom Red 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50, S65B40, S65B44 Jun-10 Present
11 24 7 841 703 Connecting Rod Bearing Top Blue 52.00 mm (+0.00 mm) S85B50, S65B40, S65B44 Jun-10 Present  


BMW Part Number Description Location Color Oversize Bearings Application Prod. Start Prod. End Superceded By
11 24 7 835 974 Connecting Rod Bearing Bottom Red 51.75 mm (+0.25 mm) S85B50 Apr-04 Apr-04 11 24 7 836 290
11 24 7 835 975 Connecting Rod Bearing Top Blue 51.75 mm (+0.25 mm) S85B50 Apr-04 Apr-04 11 24 7 836 291
11 24 7 836 290 Connecting Rod Bearing Bottom Red 51.75 mm (+0.25 mm) S85B50 Aug-05 Dec-07 11 24 7 838 090
11 24 7 836 291 Connecting Rod Bearing Top Blue 51.75 mm (+0.25 mm) S85B50 Aug-05 Dec-07 11 24 7 838 091
11 24 7 838 090 Connecting Rod Bearing Bottom Red 51.75 mm (+0.25 mm) S85B50, S65B40, S65B44 Sep-05 Present
11 24 7 838 091 Connecting Rod Bearing Top Blue 51.75 mm (+0.25 mm) S85B50, S65B40, S65B44 Sep-05 Present  


Supporting Measurements

Cyl-5 Cyl-1 Cyl-6 Cyl-2 Cyl-7 Cyl-3 Cyl-8 Cyl-4
Engine-1 2.04650 2.04655 2.04655 2.04650 2.04660 2.04655 2.04650 2.04660
Engine-2 2.04650 2.04655 2.04655 2.04650 2.04660 2.04660 2.04650 2.04650
Engine-3 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650
Engine-4 2.04660 2.04670 2.04650 2.04660 2.04640 2.04640 2.04650 2.04650
Engine-5 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04640 2.04640 2.04640 2.04640
Engine-6 2.04670 2.04680 2.04670 2.04670 2.04670 2.04670 2.04670 2.04670
Engine-7 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650
Engine-8 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04640 2.04640 2.04640 2.04640
Engine-9 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04640 2.04640 2.04640 2.04640
Engine-10 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04640 2.04640 2.04660 2.04660
Engine-11 2.04680 2.04680 2.04650 2.04650 2.04640 2.04650 2.04660 2.04670
Engine-12 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650 2.04650

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Includes previous measurement results from Van Dyne Engineering.
  2. Two VAC bearings were measured, not a complete set. The bearings were not placed in connecting rods and torqued. The clearances were calculated based on comparisons to new factory bearing samples measured at the same time, same temperatures, and same equipment. The dimensions listed above are approximated based on bearing thickness differences compared to the control samples measured at the same time, same temperature, and same measuring equipment.
  3. Two WPC bearings were measured, not a complete set. The bearings were also placed in connecting rods, torqued, and clearances properly measured. The dimensions listed above are actual dimensions and not approximated based on bearing thickness differences.